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An amusing difference of opinion has emerged among the Bush family as to whether or not the White House is haunted as the former first lady dismissed such an idea, while her daughter insists that it’s true. The proverbial paranormal divide reportedly came to light earlier this month when Laura Bush appeared on The Kelly Clarkson Show. During her conversation, the former first lady was asked if she had ever experienced ghostly activity at the White House as her daughter, Jenna Bush Hager, has claimed happened to her and her sister while they were living there. Unfortunately for the former first daughters, their mother responded in the negative and suggested that they were imagining the spooky activity.

“Barbara and Jenna were the ones that felt like it was haunted and pretended they heard voices,’ she said, “it’s probably just the secret service talking down the hall in another room that they heard, but we didn’t think it was haunted.” As one might imagine, having her paranormal experience debunked by her mother on national television didn’t sit too well with daughter Jenna, who pushed back on the assertion that she was exaggerating during a subsequent appearance on the Today Show. Explaining that the two sisters would often hear “1920s piano music” being played outside their room at night, she recounted talking to a longtime worker at the White House, named Buddy, about the weirdness.

“I said, ‘Buddy, you wouldn’t believe what Barbara and I heard last night,'” she recalled, “and he said, ‘oh Jenna, you wouldn’t believe what I’ve seen in these walls.'” The former first daughter went on to offer to call her sister so that she could confirm their experience and argued that it’s rather unlikely that secret service agents were playing 1920s piano music outside their room at night. ” I love my mom,” she said with a laugh, “but the ghost might not have been into her.”